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NEW IGS Art --- the Pine Tree
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2005-02-09 20:08:42 UTC
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http://www.pandanet.co.jp/English/art/thepinetree.html


Much to say about this: Teacher, wearing the high hat, juxtaposed
against an upright mural of pine tree. Teacher's shoes organized
while student's shoes disorganized. Observor with only one shoe.
Shoes not left at door of the abode, but at the edge of their platform.
Perspective shift toward left ... woman and lute is separate category.
If that's another hat on her back, may she be from the rice paddies?
grikdog
2005-02-09 22:34:26 UTC
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The teacher's posture is Lordly Repose, he holds a white stone in reply
to his pupil's rather cringing essay with black, the girl's smock
echoes the blue frame around the pine tree, her unbound feet suggest
... what? ... a pre-Manchu date for the picture, or older? Dead
branches in the picture of a picture of a pine, which seems curious.
What does an old pine evoke, besides age?
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2005-02-10 05:20:06 UTC
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Post by grikdog
The teacher's posture is Lordly Repose, he holds a white stone
in reply to his pupil's rather cringing essay with black, the girl's
smock echoes the blue frame around the pine tree, her unbound
feet suggest ... what? ... a pre-Manchu date for the picture, or older?
Dead branches in the picture of a picture of a pine, which seems
curious. What does an old pine evoke, besides age?
Not unexpectedly a KGS player invoked contempt and
disgust as the major driving themes behind a commentary.
Perhaps the "art contest" here concerns longevity, with which
the Japanese maintain a comfortable lead. Ask about the "age
relevance" question when you become old enough to do so.




- regards
- jb

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grikdog
2005-02-10 15:14:35 UTC
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My rooftop is snowy enough, I imagine. Far from exhibiting "contempt,"
I put the image on my desktop to consider it at length. Perhaps your
personal remark is simply a reflection of your own tightly wound
parameters?

I would be interested to know, if any art historians read this stuff,
whether the canvas texture is a feature of the original? If so, is the
image a decoration on a fabric, and what kind? Screens, triptychs,
etc. The thought also crossed my mind that The Pine Tree has been
altered in Gimp (which has a canvas filter), or might possibly be one
of those post-Maoist modern works in the old style?

What is the provenance of this pup?
richard mullens
2005-02-10 22:59:40 UTC
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Post by grikdog
My rooftop is snowy enough, I imagine. Far from exhibiting "contempt,"
I put the image on my desktop to consider it at length. Perhaps your
personal remark is simply a reflection of your own tightly wound
parameters?
I would be interested to know, if any art historians read this stuff,
whether the canvas texture is a feature of the original? If so, is the
image a decoration on a fabric, and what kind? Screens, triptychs,
etc. The thought also crossed my mind that The Pine Tree has been
altered in Gimp (which has a canvas filter), or might possibly be one
of those post-Maoist modern works in the old style?
What is the provenance of this pup?
The official line for these pictures is at http://www.pandanet.co.jp/English/galleryintro.html

A picture that has been doctored is at http://www.pandanet.co.jp/English/art/whatsthis.html

The original is at http://www.ago.net/info/collection/work.cfm?work_id=51

Both true to life in my experience !
grikdog
2005-02-11 01:47:15 UTC
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That is choice! I was prepared to believe these were Japanese scenes
from the Dutch factory at Hiroshima, except for the odd stylistic
differences. >:-)))
Chris Lawrence
2005-02-11 03:31:32 UTC
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Post by grikdog
That is choice! I was prepared to believe these were Japanese scenes
from the Dutch factory at Hiroshima, except for the odd stylistic
differences. >:-)))
Hi grikdog, when you click Reply at the end of an article it is causing
your reply to contain no quoted material, so it's very difficult to work
out what you're replying to. But if you click Show Options at the top
of an article and then use Reply at the end of the headers instead, it
will quote the article in your replies.
--
Chris
richard mullens
2005-02-11 03:31:43 UTC
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Post by grikdog
That is choice! I was prepared to believe these were Japanese scenes
from the Dutch factory at Hiroshima, except for the odd stylistic
differences. >:-)))
I make no remarks about the other pictures - except to say that you should view them with your critical faculties on full alert.
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2005-02-11 07:15:06 UTC
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Post by richard mullens
Post by grikdog
That is choice! I was prepared to believe these were Japanese
scenes from the Dutch factory at Hiroshima, except for the odd
stylistic differences. >:-)))
I make no remarks about the other pictures - except to say that you
should view them with your critical faculties on full alert.
Perhaps we need an example of something that may
be viewed with uncritical faculties on empty slumber ...




- regards
- jb

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richard mullens
2005-02-12 03:11:15 UTC
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Post by richard mullens
Post by grikdog
That is choice! I was prepared to believe these were Japanese
scenes from the Dutch factory at Hiroshima, except for the odd
stylistic differences. >:-)))
I make no remarks about the other pictures - except to say that you
should view them with your critical faculties on full alert.
Perhaps we need an example of something that may
be viewed with uncritical faculties on empty slumber ...
Isn't it restrained here ?

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